Fighting the causes of crime is a key thing to do. Trade unions are adept at fighting the symptoms of capitalism, but the difficulty posed for us all now is to get to the causes. In a thoughtful discussion workers considered how the EU was a vehicle of the onslaught and war on workers. The attack on pensions was rooted in EU policies and directives every bit as much the attack on collective bargaining and the deliberate creation of mass unemployment. Seeing the wood from the trees and observing the currents beneath the waves is a vital part of our campaigns to end neoliberalism in the coming period. A severe dose of deepening attacks is about to fall as the US wets its lips at entering the education, utilities and health markets in Europe through the US/EU trade agreement that will be drawn up over the next two years.